View Full Version : Can anyone explaine DYFS????
myangels06
07-18-2007, 03:17 PM
Hi Last August DYFS had removed my 18 month old at the time due to a diaper rash. The DYFS worker had know my daughters father from the past. They came to my house and asked to see the rash that was being treated by her doctor. She was just seen that proir monday. Well her Dr. was on vacation and I noticed the rash was getting worse. It was August so it was hot and she was in pampers. Well anyway. The nurse called in the rash cream to my nearest drug store. That afternoon DYFS wanted her to go to the ER. So we went, The DR in the ER basically said the same thing and that was to use the cream and take her to her Dr on monday. Well the appointment was set. OK then the next day my daughters father and the police came to my house stating that my daughters father was givin coustody of her because DYFS recommended it. Now they never did a background check on him and my daughter just started to get to know her father 2 months before that. Well we went to court and DYFS than had my 7 yr old daughter removed. For no reason. Than 2 weeks later they showed up at my house at 530 pm and tried to say my sons school had called and stated that I beat him and thats why they were there. Now why did'nt they go to the school when the school called? So they removed my 2 boys. DYFS wanted me to comply with services and I did. Parenting classes, thearpy, eveluations the whole nine yards. Well 6 months in to thearpy we DYFS stated that thearpy was not serving the purpose and court ordered me to to to DBT (dialectial behaviorial thearpy). Well after attending the intake appointment, they advised me thar this is not something for me as this thearpy was for people who could not deal with or face reality and either turn to drugs or self mutalation. So I insisted I go back to my other theripist. DYFS said no and when we went to court tried to turn it around on me. stating I was not complying. I started to see the thearpist in the DYFS office only to find out that it was thearpy for parenting skills and not for my personal reasons. So Im attending thearpy with they DYFS Dr as well as my private thearpist. The recently placed my 5 yr old with his father whom he had no relationship with in the past 5 years. and I have noticed he has a lot of bruises and stratches on him. When I had asked him what had happend he told me it happened at his daddy house either by his daddy or step mommy. Now I reported this to DYFS and all they could say was that it was accidental. Now this past weekend I had recieved a bill in the mail and it said that my 5 yr old got stitches. DYFS never told me about this. They take my kids away cause of a treated rash and some bruises. Like a 5 yr old with ADHD is not suppose to get hurt, I had 4 children in my home. 2 boys and 2 girls. What do u expect they are kids. Can DYFS put me through all this hell and is there anything I can do to get my kids back and possiabley sue DYFS.
zelner
07-19-2007, 12:49 PM
Wow, you really went through a lot of aggravation with DYFS. Are you still in touch with your case worker? My understanding of DYFS is that if you want your kids back or if you want help you need to have a good relationship with your case worker. You may be able to request another case worker if the one you have is not helping you. This would be the first step in trying to get your kids back. I'll talk to some people and try to find out what else you can do.
As for suing DYFS, I will see if I can find any info for you. I'll try to get back to you soon.
lands
03-25-2008, 11:45 PM
to this story than you're telling us. DYFS just doesn't come to you home and remove a child for no reason at all. There must be a good reason to remove a child (substantiated abuse and/or neglect). A diaper rash would not constitute a removal.
If you hit your child and the child was removed, you would be informed immediately.
Again, there is something missing from your story.
jff.law
04-18-2008, 10:58 AM
The Division of Youth and Family Services (DYFS) is New Jersey's child protection and child welfare agency within the Department of Children and Families. Its mission is to ensure the safety, permanency and well-being of children and to support families.
those guys are just used to kids from the roach hotel and they apply it to everything. I was told from parents with a similar experience that we should retain a specialized lawyer and get a restraining order. because of them we are thinking to move out of state. your school experience matches mine. all it is is that one teacher or person at school does not like you, they fill out a form, and boom, they hit you like a nuclear weapon. never mind that most case workers are not even maried or ever had a child. the homemakers they send do not even know that france is a country....speaking for the qualification of the DYFS system. man, they rock.....surprised they can spell and write. and they are there to jugde me?
JForestZ34
03-11-2009, 10:47 PM
to this story than you're telling us. DYFS just doesn't come to you home and remove a child for no reason at all. There must be a good reason to remove a child (substantiated abuse and/or neglect). A diaper rash would not constitute a removal.
If you hit your child and the child was removed, you would be informed immediately.
Again, there is something missing from your story.
Sorry but I have to say this is BS.. My 2 month old was taken from me and her mother on a doctor's OPINION, not fact.. SO now we have to go through all the hoops to get her back.. We did nothing wrong but they think that they are the child's parent's because truthfully who would argue about a service that is SUPPOSED to safe guard the children... BS BS BS.. I have a friend I went to high school with and his son fell in the shower.. The child is 10!!!! When his son fell he scraped his back in the shower, so he brought him to the ER and next thing you know child services says that he was abusing his son... What a crock that is.. He is a great father... I can stand them not just because they have my daughter but with all the things I have read and heard from people I know....
James
KIMMIZ
06-28-2009, 03:08 PM
When dyfs becomes any of those things please let the rest of the world know!!!you are giving us a textbook def.
KIMMIZ
06-28-2009, 03:29 PM
Dyfs has found their way into my life..My boyfriend punched our former roommate in the face because well first he attacked the landlord first and threw him through a glass table and secondly because the fight continued and our son was in the house and started walking into the room and the roommate tried to go get the landlord again..so My boyfriend looked down saw our son and ended the fight..he was punched once..and because of his abusing painkillers his face broke in 18 places or so he says.no one was hurt except the landlord and the roommate who had complete intent to start the fight in the house with a child in it....so now because there was a violent act in a home with a child the actual problem in the home was him and he moved out because of what happened..now we are left dealing with that idiots drama.we have been completely helpful with dyfs but that haven't done a thing for us except disturb our household...we have one car and 4 people to drive around to work, activities,socials,appointments, doctors, stores, banks ect...so they expect us to completely stop what we are doing to accommidate their every need. The last thing they are worried about is Our son they just want us to got to couciling ect... funny my man protects his family from someone and he's the bad person here..obviously not to bad of a situation since they did not take our son but come on please much worse cases then ours. don't they have anything better to do then to harrass our family an many others with BS cases. GO find something better to do!!!! like make ur own family and stop stickin ur noses into others..My dyfs worker is literally just out of college still white behind his eyes no experience with family except what has Mommy and Daddy taught him. Books that they use during thos Dyfs classes our just that books not experience raising a child...I've had a dyfs worker tell me that the way DYFS want you to live is not the way people live..Like serioulsy those of you who have a child of the opposite sex and they sleep in your bed????? I bet a lot of you...thats a no no according to dyfs..How many of you have two children in the samen bedrrom of the opposite sex after 5 yrs old???? still a no no....so when ur five yr old comes to ur bed ur suppose to say " sorry honey its against the law for you to be in my bed"get off it thats just a couple ofexamples for you but you ge the drift...anyway does aNYONE HAVE anyidea what our rights our even when we don't have any court ordered anything..just doing what they ask within reason
KIMMIZ
06-28-2009, 03:32 PM
Dyfs tried to take my son for him falling off the top of a washer only because no one witnessed it and I was in my post pardom period
Eagle
07-01-2009, 01:12 PM
The way to ged rid of DYFS is to be polite to them and go thru with their stupid counseling etc. If you are nice to them they will go away. I know it may be difficult to be polite to a brain-dead government employee but if you want them to go away that is what you must do.
drcoastline
08-19-2009, 10:43 AM
DYFS is just another New Jersey Liberal Nazi program designed to make people think the government is better equipped at running your life. They make no sense so don't try to figure it out.
dyfsreform
08-22-2009, 12:22 PM
I am looking for an attorney to sue DYFS as well.
W-Horn1
10-18-2009, 06:35 PM
I got DYFS trying to climb up my crack cause some one dropped a tip that there was neglect. I have paper work from them that the case was unfound. Now 3 months later there back again because I got a DWI 2.5 years ago. They keep trying to sell me some treatment. And they constantly are changing stories. I stated to the new case worker I have a sit down with my lawyer on the 19th (about 2 weeks when all the stories changed ) She stated " you should know your rights" Then 3 days later shes calling my wife. I contacted the new case workers supervisor after the last phone call that caused my wife to explode, and the supervisor had little to no info about the newly opened case. How do these clowns in NJ operate??
Are they slow on work and trying to create new jobs and waste our governments money??
Every time they come over I have to restrain my doberman from her yard so there ass doesnt get bit.
Mabye I should just let the dog loose??
I have no history of violence, but I could change that LOL..
Any 1 have any ideas??
magic67
01-29-2010, 02:06 AM
what do i do if dffs is looking 4 me and how do i got if they do not reach
magic67
01-29-2010, 02:10 AM
i just want 2 know how long do dyfs have if they can t contact me with in 30 days
drcoastline
05-02-2010, 02:26 PM
W-Horn1
DYFS doesn't make any sense. There is no rhyme nor reason to their actions. Unfortunately they do not have to make sense or have any grounds to open an investigation all they need is an anonymous call making an allegation. The first thing I would tell you is don't make any more violent replies on the internet like the one above. I know you are joking but they will use that against you that you have the potential to be violent. As much as you may hate it. You need to kiss A**. Try and befriend the case worker so they will go easy.
Magic67 learn to type a coherent sentence and use spell check then maybe someone can understand what your question(s) are and can advise.
Kelly S.
05-13-2010, 08:02 PM
While I agree that threats are not the best way to go, DO NOT under ANY circumstances kiss their a**! If I had done that my kids would still be living with the drug addicted father that abused them. DYFS put them there by the way.
C Vicjulian
05-29-2010, 01:39 PM
ALL PARENTS victimized by DYFS need to get together and sue!!!! I'm spreading the word!
My email is vicjulian@verizon.net (PAST OR PRESENT ASSULT ON YOUR FAMILY)
Whether you have your children or they won't leave you alone OR YOU are still fighting to get them back!
......leave your email and lets stop these people from terrorizing our families.
YES it's all about money! $4000 to $6000 and $8000 (if they're disabled) per child that is adopted or in foster care!
....it's called the Federal Adoption Incentive Bonus. LOOK IT UP!
Funds each state receives and they call it "protecting" our kids.
Do not tell me over 144,000 Families are abusing their children-state wide! RED FLAG-waving!!!
Without a certain amount of children......
A state can be disqualified from these funds. Some states have already lost their funds because their quota was too low.
(They call it what ever they want -fact is quota is low No Funds are given-with any job(s))
(translation-The honest-states that-did not-Legally kidnap children for money have lost their funds....These are the people WE want to help protect our kids! These are the people needed to run this system!)
(((People who only work or care about BRINGING IN THE MONEY-should be fired ...along with anyone who HAS gone along with destroying these families. GIVE the Jobs to those who REALLY care about the kids and reuniting families)))
Because of the incentive of bonus money and GREED...... DYFS/CPS has lost it's focus ....it's goals to reunite families!
AFTER they get their money these children are LOST and THROWN away into a system with fosters/strangers who are NOT put through the BS a loving-parent is put through.
UNFIT Foster parents & unfit biological parent/grandparents are NOT given Psychological test or extensive-anything-to see if they are capable of being a foster parent.
Some foster/strangers do not have their own children. Some have had their children taken from THEM for being incapable themselves....BUT.....because extreme-extensive back ground checks are NOT made the-PLACED-child usually suffers, (EMOTIONALLY TRAUMATIZED to begin with) they are subjected to ADDITIONALLY trauma mentally and/or physically.
Some times abused with starvation or raped and/or killed by strangers!
(AND when the parent complains (about an observable injury) it's labeled an accident or worst ignored by the DYFS worker(s)!) Yet DYFS is ALL OVER the rash on the child or the anonymous--complaint -RED FLAG WAVING!!!!
-----NO ONE IS Perfect But.......obvious is obvious --what is wRonG with these WORKERS??? (Embarrased to admit YOU are wrong???---Don't BE---JUST FIX IT! But they don't they let it drag)
(((DYFS/CPS people are backwards and sick with worry to be labeled wrong or incompetent but they prove this with soooo many complaints against them!))))) Admit you messed up OR close the case! -Reunite the Family- on to the next case.
ALL THE BOOK SMARTS and/or diplomas IN THE WORLD DOES NOT GIVE anyone THE COMMOM SENSE OR THE CHARACTER JUDGEMNET DYFS DESPERATELY NEEDS! ...and those training NEW workers have poisoned them.....cult style!
(The good-worker needs to be separated from the bad-influences)
They claim guilty and the parent has to jump through hoops to prove themselves innocent..... but DYFS' intentions ...FROM THE START.... IS NOT to give back the child(ren)!!!
No matter what they tell the parent and everyone else.
-----THEIR INTENT is to KEEP as many of the children as they can......for money!!!
A CLASS ACTION LAW SUIT is NEEDED!!! (Lawyers needed to take on this task) (Past or present cases the more families stepping up the better IT SHOWS their incompetence.)
PARENTS! LET'S GET TOGETHER! Their are hundreds .....going through this YOU ARE NOT ALONE!!!!!
and for THOSE saying ....."be polite" or "they are doing their jobs" or even "there is something more you're not mentioning" ----YOU ARE in the dyfs-loop, either working for the DYFS/CPS system
...OR YOU have not/ARE NOT in this situation ...or YOU are in denial or closed-eye to the problems in the Adoption system. Read the countless complaints! Hundreds STATE WIDE......
It's stomach turning!
YES-There ARE 'problem parents' but there are MORE parents being victimized and in turn their children traumatized by false allegation from a disgruntle spouse-Xboyfriend-girlfriend-angry neighbor or friend.
Habitual callers should be thoroughly investigated.
And in the case of "MYANGELS06"....You are not alone.This has happened and is occurring now!
DYFS" ACTIONS SPEAK VOLUMES:
DYFS also DOES have a reputation of making-up/TRUMP UP/dig for/grasps for straws with not charges but unfounded allegations .....to stall for time!!!!
They have 12months to 15mths (depending on the state) to keep YOUR child-legally!
This is why the classes are scheduled 2-3 4-mths down the line!!!
........26 classes for 26 weeks at one class a week when your done they bring up other class or therapists to see
even if THEY KNOW ---YOU don't need them. Then they claim-You do not comply or cooperate or that your difficult?!
I have heard and read too many stories where DYFS/CPS creates excuse after excuse.
Then claim "Time-past"!!! They hide behind.....anonymous callers!!!
Attorneys need to subpoena these calls to obtain justification for DYFS'/CPS' removing children.
...and the subpoena tapes DYFS claim they have of children accusing the parent.
The child psychologist is trained to LEAD and coerce the child into an accusation!
(These allegations against DYFS/CPS and all affiliates stem from Hundreds of complaints posted in many web-blogs
of parents looking for help)
Let's get ALL the families together and sue! I am going web site to web site with this info you should too....Vicjulian@verizon.net......
The adoption system keeps everyone they deal with APART .....in telling them NOT to talk with anyone else.
They...... fear that parents WILL get together and SUE!
DYFS/CPS ARE not above the law!!! They say and feel they are But they HAVE BEEN sued before.
.....So...... HAVE YOU had enough???
LET"S Protect-Our Own Children and Keep OUR Own families together!!!!
((((* This information is posted with the freedom of speech amendment behind it! *))))
........ " LET"S Protect Our Own Children and Keep OUR Own families together!!!!"
C Vicjulian
05-29-2010, 05:00 PM
Contact you for what?
If DYFS has your child(ren) you need to stay on top of it.
They WILL drag their feet and stall for time until the 12 month period they have to TERMINATE you parental rights.
If you wait they will not bother to move your case along....
If they are looking for you it depends on ...why? You did not specify.
Kelly S.
05-29-2010, 05:47 PM
I plan on suing them. They CAN NOT continue getting away with what they do. If you try to prove them wrong they use the power the state has given them(too much power in my opinion) to destroy your family AND YOUR LIFE. That is what DYFS actually stands for........Destroy Your Family Slowly. They do not like me because I am an educated woman who was not about to put up with their crap. I asked one of my many supervisors in Ocean County, when I was trying to get my children back from their crack-addicted,abusive father, exactly how many children they were responsible for killing this year. I did not want my children to be the next ones on the front page of the Asbury Park Press. She hung up on me. I guess the truth hurts! I just need to find a lawyer who is not afraid to go up against them.
Kelly S.
05-29-2010, 06:09 PM
You dont have to reply to them at all. They are civilians and you can refuse to deal with them. Call a lawyer and the next time they show up(this is for ANYONE) tell them to get off your property and come back when they have a warrant. They would need to actually have PROOF of allegations in order to get one. Wish i had that info before they took my boys. Could have saved myself alot of heartache.
joelg017
10-05-2010, 12:59 PM
Dyfs removed my son against my civil rights cause I complained that the lady they put in my house fell a sleep while my son was still up.I thought we have the right of speech .Now in the courts the case worker was asked by the judge why was his son removed and the case worker stated that I called them ,when at no time I do that.They needed to get me back, from when my son was removed from the mother of my son in may/2000 after she had labor and were both under cocaine in their systems .I wasn't with her since she was too busy partying and being with other men.Then I went to the visit in the dyfs office in Bergen county and my son's skin was burned on his neck,front part of his elbows, behind his knees,his pee pee,and I took that picture and left when they saw I had something against them they made it hard for me and then they opened another case against me in 2007 when the case worker came into my house and I had showed the pictures that I took in 2000/2001 then I walked to the kitchen and the lady just left my house once she stole my pictures then months lady I received a letter stating that case was also closed again with no explanation . Also when I tried to get custody of my sons they fought against me cause I was disabled from an assault I had in Manhattan on Sept 1997 where I was found dead and put in accoma so that was their excuse for me not being able to be a father...So what I'm suppose to be happy with people that honestly do nothing but make families heart broken and when, there is no prove of the reason the kids removed then they try to find any excuse to cover their mistakes ...I'm willing to go forward against them and make sure other families don't go through this or at least more people open up and show what they go through so dyfs be more investigated .
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